Re: Re: Nintendo
By: Ganiman to Nightfox on Tue Dec 06 2022 01:02 pm

Yes, TVs have basically dropped composite and component inputs. And if they have them, their interal upscalers are so bad you don't want to use it anyway. Watch the My Life in Gaming content and look up Retrotink. Retrotink probably makes the best upscalers today. They have a few models in different price ranges. They might not be cheap but they are very much worth it and will future proof your old consoles for many years to come.

Interesting.. I thought if my TV had the component inputs, there wouldn't be much point in buying an HDMI adapter for my Nintendo Wii. I'd heard there would be little to no visual difference.. I actually think the Wii looks okay on the TV I'm using it with. I wonder how different it might look if its video was upscaled, and if there would be any lag in the video due to it being processed and upscaled.

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I wonder how
different it might look if its video was upscaled, and if there would be any lag in the video due to it being processed and upscaled.

MLiG vidoes will go in depth about this. Another good resource is https://www.retrorgb.com .

There are different solutions for different budgets and depending on how far down the rabbit hole you want to. I've went pretty deep many years ago and have many retro consoles set up for RGB SCART and PVMs. That is not for everyone. A Retrotink is a good investment and will go a long way. You will get like 1 frame of lag with them if I recall, which is as good as it gets, and I think some of them can take in 240p/480i/480p and output 740p/1080p/1440p. They have scaling options too so you can get things to look how you prefer.

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Re: Re: Nintendo
By: Ganiman to Nightfox on Tue Dec 06 2022 02:10 pm

MLiG vidoes will go in depth about this. Another good resource is https://www.retrorgb.com .

Interesting, I'll have to check it out.

There are different solutions for different budgets and depending on how far down the rabbit hole you want to. I've went pretty deep many years ago and have many retro consoles set up for RGB SCART and PVMs. That is not for everyone. A Retrotink is a good investment and will go a long way. You will get like 1 frame of lag with them if I recall, which is as good as it gets, and I think some of them can take in 240p/480i/480p and output 740p/1080p/1440p. They have scaling options too so you can get things to look how you prefer.

I'm not really familiar with SCART (I think SCART is a European standard?) I think I saw an SCART TV once when I was in Germany, but I'm in the US and haven't seen it here.

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I'm not really familiar with SCART (I think SCART is a European
standard?) I think I saw an SCART TV once when I was in Germany, but
I'm in the US and haven't seen it here.

Yes, it is an EU standard, and also has a form in Japan called JP21 (connector looks the same, but the pinout is different - do not mix them!). I however am in the US. Quality SCART cables still provide some of the best and cleanest signals for the sharpest images.

Another good solution for many consoles is to use the HD Retrovision cables. An example of their work would be component cables for SNES (yes, you read that right). Component is still a great way to go for many things, but know that the upscalers built into TVs are usually pretty bad for a variety of reasons and an component > HDMI upscaler will give you many more years of enjoyment from your old consoles.

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On 06 Dec 22 08:42:03 Nightfox wrote...

Re: Re: Nintendo By: claw to Nightfox on Tue Dec 06 2022 07:52 am

I used my wii for a good while when it first came out. Modded it
with the WODE. That has a built in ripper for games. I have a
few on there just don't have a CRTv sitting around to connect it
too. I'm sure I can find some converter to get in an HDMI. Once
the kids are gone and I have room for things like that I will
get it going again.

I have a 55" flat panel TV that I bought in 2015, and it has analog component inputs, which I'm using for my Nintendo Wii. But there are converter adapters available if your TV only has HDMI.

I bought a second TV last year that only has HDMI, and it had me
wondering if TVs have now generally dropped component & composite
inputs altogether. Or maybe the second TV I bought doesn't have them because it's a lower-end model?

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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

I think it's the lower end model....

I bought one a few years ago and it had all the connectors.

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If you can solve this problem your a genius.

How do you get people to not pirate the software and release it DRM Free?

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