• MESO: Hilary - Heavy Rain

    From Mike Powell@454:1/105 to All on Sunday, August 20, 2023 14:56:00
    AWUS01 KWNH 201801
    FFGMPD
    AZZ000-NVZ000-CAZ000-210000-

    Mesoscale Precipitation Discussion 0952
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    201 PM EDT Sun Aug 20 2023

    Areas affected...much of southern California and adjacent areas of
    southern Nevada and far western Arizona

    Concerning...Heavy rainfall...Flash flooding likely

    Valid 201800Z - 210000Z

    Summary...Tropical Storm Hilary continues to make steady
    north-northwestward progress toward the Southwestern U.S.. Areas
    of heavy rainfall should cause flash flooding at least through 00Z.

    Discussion...Widespread areas of light to moderate rainfall
    continue to stream northward ahead of the approach of Hilary,
    which was recently located near the northern Baja California
    Peninsula. Rain rates have generally remained in the 0.2-0.5
    inch/hr range across southern California so far, with the heaviest
    rain recently noted in/near higher terrain north of Los Angeles
    and just south of El Centro in far northwestern Mexico over the
    past hour or so. These rain rates have resulted in a few impacts
    so far. Models/CAMs suggest that rain rates within this general
    axis (from Los Angeles northward toward Death Valley and southern
    Nevada near Pahrump) could increase as the center of Hilary gets
    closer, with spots of 0.5+ inch/hr rainfall expected as low-level
    wind fields increase over time.

    A somewhat more concerning scenario should unfold from along and
    just east of the Peninsular and eastern Transverse ranges into the
    southern Sierra through 00Z. As Hilary moves closer to these
    areas, low-level wind fields will increase dramatically, with a
    distinct southeasterly component of flow interacting favorably
    with local orography to provide lift. Additionally, strong
    low-level warm/moist advection and surface heating should allow
    for added destabilization to both 1) bolster updraft strength and
    coverage while 2) eventually increasing rain rates. Eventually,
    heavier precipitation (such as the near 1 inch/hr rain rates
    observed just south fo El Centro) should migrate northward into
    southern California and further increase the flash flood risk.
    These rates could persist for a few hours in tandem with Hilary's
    storm motion. Areas of 2-4 inch rainfall totals are likely, and
    this thinking is generally in line with the 12Z runs of the
    high-resolution Nam and HREF.

    Additional thunderstorm activity should also materialize along the
    Lower Colorado River Valley, although the flash flood potential is
    somewhat in question there as fast storm motions limit the amount
    of rainfall in any given spot. It appears that more organized
    training of convection will be needed for a more appreciable flash
    flood threat to materialize across eastern portions of the
    discussion area (closer to the Lower Colorado River) through the
    evening.

    Cook

    ATTN...WFO...HNX...LKN...LOX...PSR...REV...SGX...VEF...

    ATTN...RFC...CBRFC...CNRFC...NWC...

    LAT...LON 38231643 37511562 36391459 35181471 34111442
    33031429 32421479 32301716 32801790 33951911
    34971939 36641939 37651876 38221764

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  • From Mike Powell@454:1/105 to All on Monday, August 21, 2023 08:41:00
    AWUS01 KWNH 211150
    FFGMPD
    NVZ000-CAZ000-211800-

    Mesoscale Precipitation Discussion 0957
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    750 AM EDT Mon Aug 21 2023

    Areas affected...Southeast CA Deserts...Much of Central Nevada...

    Concerning...Heavy rainfall...Flash flooding likely

    Valid 211200Z - 211800Z

    SUMMARY...Tail end of moisture flux band associated with Post T.C.
    Hilary. Additional 1-2" across areas already flooded could
    possibly reaggravate situations locally.

    DISCUSSION...GOES-W WV suite denotes Hilary has fully transitioned
    and melded with extratropical deep cyclone west of CA with
    trailing tail-end of broad warm conveyor belt denoted across S CA
    and NV. CIRA LPW also depicts core of moisture is starting to
    shift north and bifurcate through depth across the southeast
    deserts of CA into south-central NV. Sfc to 700mb still shows
    core of enhanced moisture through the Lower Colorado Valley nosing
    into the S NV and through central NV with .33 to .5" across the
    two layers (sfc-850 & 850-700) respectively. However, the 700-500
    layer has enhanced drying overlaying this enhanced moisture, but a
    narrow band of enhanced moisture up to .5" does exist through the
    Imperial valley through the Mojave to west of Las Vegas. As such,
    a narrow overlap resulting in totals near 1.5-1.7" still exists
    near the CA/NV boarder centered over and west of the Spring
    Mountains. Winds through this area continue to be strong with
    20-25kt at 850 becoming 40-50kts at 700mb, but fairly
    unidirectional through great depth. Even 500-300mb flow is
    unidirectional likely to allow this overlapping area of enhanced
    moisture to stream northward further into central NV throughout
    the remainder of the morning.

    While instability is very limited, there are hints of 250-500 J/kg
    of MUCAPE and with favorable right entrance ascent to 60-70kt 3H
    jet core near 120W, a few shallow but vertical cores of convection
    remain possible through the morning hours. Starting across the
    Mojave Desert currently, and streaking northward into northern Nye
    county and eventually toward Eureka county toward late
    morning/noon. Showers will likely be best enhanced along spines
    of the Ranges where any localized mountain circulation can enhance
    low level moisture flux convergence. Hi-Res CAMs continue to
    appear plausible with fairly good agreement in placement and
    timing to provide some increased confidence. As such, rates up to
    1"/hr and localized spots of 2-2.5" remain possible. This alone
    may have resulted in possible flash flooding conditions, but given
    the recent heavy rainfall across the area...flash flooding is
    considered to be likely to reaggravate ongoing flooding across the
    area of concern through 18z, but diminishing with time and from
    south to north.

    Gallina

    ATTN...WFO...LKN...REV...VEF...

    ATTN...RFC...CBRFC...CNRFC...NWC...

    LAT...LON 40901541 40321495 39271494 38261493 36911494
    34911498 34431560 34901637 35941733 38621843
    40231814 40881719

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  • From Mike Powell@454:1/105 to All on Monday, August 21, 2023 08:41:00
    AWUS01 KWNH 211227
    FFGMPD
    IDZ000-ORZ000-WAZ000-211830-

    Mesoscale Precipitation Discussion 0958
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    826 AM EDT Mon Aug 21 2023

    Areas affected...Eastern Oregon...West-central Idaho...

    Concerning...Heavy rainfall...Flash flooding likely

    Valid 211230Z - 211830Z

    SUMMARY...Sharp/stationary deformation zone with persistent highly
    anomalous moisture flux and occasional embedded convective
    elements capable of 1"+/hr. Localized spots of 2-3" are possible
    through 21z, resulting in flooding and possible localized flashy
    conditions at times.

    DISCUSSION...GOES-W WV depicts nearly full transition of Hilary to
    a classic baroclinic cyclone with impressive baroclinic leaf
    developing across N CA into Oregon with broad shortwave ridging
    expanding over the area of concern and expanding anticyclonic
    cirrus arching through the entrance to the 110+kt 3H Jet along the
    western US/Canadian boarder. This is providing strong vertical
    ascent across the region, while the core of deep layer moisture
    associated with Post T.C. Hilary has been lifting through western
    NV toward the region. Concurrently, low level flow through the
    Snake River Valley in ID has backed with 700mb accelerating to
    over 25kts from the southeast (increasing to 50kts in the next few
    hours). Low to mid-60s surface Tds and overall total PWats
    increasing to over 1.3", perhaps as high as 1.5", which would be
    at or near local record values using surrounding RAOB history but
    is nearly 5-6 standard deviations from monthly averages. While
    mid-level temperature profiles are fairly moist adiabatic, there
    is still some warm air advection to support some weak mid-level
    unstable air with MUCAPE values near 500 J/kg.

    Given the strength of moisture flux convergence into the
    strengthening deformation/frontogenetical band from NW NV to
    east-central OR into north-central ID, a broad shield of
    precipitation is forming along the band with KCBX already showing
    some embedded convective elements along the the upwind edge at
    this time. Those elements are likely to settle further north but
    begin to remain relatively stationary with cell motions likely to
    be along the arch to support training potential. Those small
    convective cores are likely to support rates up to 1" maybe
    1.25"/hr within the broader .25-.33"/hr shield. Given duration of
    3-6+ hours, spots of 2-3" are possible. Orographic ascent across
    the SE facing terrain is a bit more atypical, especially given the
    deeper moisture that may expose topography/channels/creeks that
    have not experienced these types of rates and may result in
    increased mud flows as well. These rates, totals and topography
    are likely to induce at least highly localized flash flooding
    conditions through the late morning into early afternoon period.

    Gallina

    ATTN...WFO...BOI...MSO...OTX...PDT...

    ATTN...RFC...CNRFC...NWRFC...NWC...

    LAT...LON 46661518 45811499 45051531 44041616 43251690
    42681743 42261793 42081855 42241902 43171930
    44281883 46021727 46641620

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, August 23, 2023 09:48:00

    MIKE POWELL wrote to ALL <=-
    SUMMARY...Tail end of moisture flux band associated with Post
    T.C. Hilary. Additional 1-2" across areas already flooded could
    possibly reaggravate situations locally.

    One of the local meteorologists was reporting on tropical storm Hilary
    during the news and absent-mindly said "Tropical Storm Hillary Clinton"!


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  • From Mike Powell@454:1/105 to BARRY MARTIN on Friday, August 25, 2023 07:07:00
    One of the local meteorologists was reporting on tropical storm Hilary
    during the news and absent-mindly said "Tropical Storm Hillary Clinton"!

    That does not shock me. :) The Babylon Bee did a satirical piece about
    how TS Hilary was not as potent at landfall as forecast due to "Russian interference" in our weather. :D

    Mike


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Mike Powell on Sunday, August 27, 2023 10:55:00

    Hi Mike!

    One of the local meteorologists was reporting on tropical storm Hilary during the news and absent-mindly said "Tropical Storm Hillary Clinton"!
    That does not shock me. :) The Babylon Bee did a satirical
    piece about how TS Hilary was not as potent at landfall as
    forecast due to "Russian interference" in our weather. :D

    So the Russians are sneakier than the Chinese? (Sly referral to the
    balloons incidents.)


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